ban systemd

updates

  • Nov2014 - an exploit in systemd resolver - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8595335

    • Just another reason to do one thing well and not try to do too much. C’mon systemd, focus.
    • Please help me understand why a init.d replacement needs to provide a resolver.
    • some gems from this thread
      • “I find the design of systemd-resolved to be very strange. It uses dbus to talk to glibc, and it seems to be a new, from-scratch implementation of a DNS resolver. To be clear, I don’t really think it matters whether systemd-resolved is under the systemd umbrella, but I do think that the design has a lot of unnecessary NIH syndrome.”
      • “This is a perfect example of why the systemd approach of putting a bunch of disparate components under a single tightly-coupled umbrella is bad engineering.”
      • “It’s mind blowing to realize that because of the init system we have on our system we are now vulnerable to DNS poisoning.”
    • anyways, give the thread a read and see for yourself how systemd should be abandoned

  • website which describes a lot of good points - http://boycottsystemd.org/

why I want to ban systemd

  1. the developers and members on the irc room are aggressive and counter productive and only seem to want to fight rather than try to solve any issue.

  2. I read countless posts about the terrible nature of the developers

    1. http://www.infoworld.com/article/2608798/data-center/systemd--harbinger-of-the-linux-apocalypse.html?page=2

  3. Linus Banned a developer for fighting

    https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76935

    From https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76935#c24

    Systemd needs to be forked NOW.
Linus explained it well already:
Kay and Lennart: please just go away, disappear from the FOSS community, we don't need you and your crap.

  4. They ban you if they do not agree with you

    1. https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00389.html

  5. Countless people disagree – even Linus.

    1. http://ewontfix.com/14/
    2. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7522200
    3. http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/35320/
    4. https://twitter.com/lusis/status/450701265782456320

More updates to follow..

I’m pretty entertained but really saddened by the current situation. I joined the IRC room to ask abuot a bug and only got racial comments and vulgar language when I inquired about a bug. We didn’t even get to discussing the technical reasons, I had to leave the channel. I might try again later, I am curious.

The community needs to reject this overly complex piece of software without a clear focus or direction.